Yep. This will become a trend. There are enough problems with Ebay buyers now. You can't leave negative feedback. Buyers already have way to much power. Ebay lets the buyers do spin palace zakopane, just about what they want. I..quit. I do not want buyers automatically getting their money back. 2, 3,4, 5, or 6 months later. And they will! Ebay is enabling this kind of behavior. Pure BS. This will not go over well for anyone.
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"What are the best alternatives to Paypal that offer both seller and buyer SANE protection both ways?"
'I found this rare camera from some old lady in Nantucket who had no idea of its true value and I got it for almost nothing, so I'd like to get the thousands back I paid for the one I bought from you'
USPO Postal Money order… If the seller commits fraud, there really is a postal police who go into action. That's an appropriate amount of protection between peers.
If I have something camera related to sell, I list it on Kijiji (or Craigslist) first. Now, I'm lucky that I live in the city and there are lot's of potential buyers nearby. If that doesn't work, I list the item on specialized forums, like this one. For me as a seller it would be the best, if the money would be deposited directly to my bank account, like it is done in Europe.
I just checked eBays terms and paypal is required. Other methods and money orders are not allowed except for certain items such as cars. No outside payment services like google wallet are allowed..
But consumers want protection which is understandable. There have been too many shady sellers and it's resulting in new consumer protection laws. And it's not just small sellers but also the big corporations that have caused it; it's the big corporation's fault more than anybody else.
Originally Posted by Pioneer
interesting. I've never used ProPay with Ebay, but it looks a lot better than Paypal right now.
But, it's not designed for the peer to peer situation between buyer and seller that often exists here.
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Unfortunately Ebay and Paypal have established such a huge share of this market that there really are not many other options. In most buyer's minds Ebay is THE ONLY auction site and Paypal IS THE safest way to pay.
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A good place to keep track of ebay adventures is: http://www.ecommercebytes.com
Op,
While you have listed the paypal status, (and thank you)
for a complete understanding,
you may want to check on fleaBay for the options there.
There are (4) pull downs:
- No returns is an option
- Time limits. 14 days through 60 days
- refund type
- return shipping payed by buyer or seller
I mention these here, so that all buyers are not assuming your 180 days is the default.
If they go through a fleaBay, they may find out what the real limits are.
feel free to bash on fleaBay, and paypud, but you should get the facts out there correctly.
The only reason it's still around is because it was established early, and is a household brand. So canadian slots online doctoral programs, that means lots of eyeballs. But that also means ebay thinks it can ask whatever it wants for fees and users will simply put up with it.
If you sell on eBay or take PayPal for any purchase you may be in for a BIG SURPRISE: 180 day return policy. This may come to a surprise to many, since it was a big surprise to me. I don’t typically read the Policy Updates, and I think most people don’t, I mean for example the iTunes agreement is over 50 pages! In this case, someone pointed this out to me and I think it’s worth posting. Big changes are coming to all eBay & PayPal sellers November 18th. Some of the changes are already in effect for certain sellers. Free return shipping and 180 days to make a claim. Quotes and links below:
SNAD returns aren't related to whether you allow returns or don't. People can return SNAD items whether you accept returns or not. eBay has to 'approve' it, but they pretty much approve every reason.
I stopped selling there completely due to paypal policy. If i do sell something large on there in the future online casino slots canada fly in, it will be pickup only and cash only. If the buyer wants to give me negative for that, that's better than having them steal my stuff.
I've only been screwed twice in 13 years on Ebay. If I notice a big change when these new rules kick in free casino online slots with bonus, I might try something different. What other options are out there?
*Speak up sellers, this isn't RIGHT!*
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Do you want Joe Blow at eBay customer service deciding if a collectable item you sold is in 'nice' shape or not? What if your 'red' guitar is more 'magenta' to a buyer?
just so you know, the return policy is a joke and your better off just accepting all returns, they manually override them anyways all day long.
One of the reasons given is that certain credit card companies are extending their claim period to 180 days too, but they certainly don’t make it a few mouse clicks and you’ve got your money back. Nor would they force paying return shipping to my knowledge.
Quoted from Chondro:
Money Back Guarantee. We updated this section to reflect changes in the Money Back Guarantee, specifically that sellers are responsible for return shipping costs if an item is not as described and that, if an eBay-generated return shipping label is used for return shipping on items not as described, we place the return shipping label cost on the seller’s invoice. - See more at: ebay.com link
Those are the 'return policy' settings, which a seller can choose to accept, or not accept.
PayPal actually replied to me on part of my concerns, the one about return shipping. They say that is an eBay policy, and not PayPal best online casino zeus, which does help a little. On eBay though, here is their wording in case you didn't see it spartan slots casino reviews, from the User Agreement posted August 12th, effective September 15th:
Returns. We updated this section to clarify that if eBay hassle-free returns are applied to your listings, you authorize eBay to remove the refund amount from your PayPal account, place the amount on your invoice casino games video free, and/or charge your payment method on file. By the 2015 holiday season, all eligible domestic returns on eBay will be eBay hassle-free returns and sellers may not remove hassle-free return settings from their listings. We updated this section also to reflect this future change. - See more at: ebay.com link
ebay is going to be even worse when they start the 180 day refund stuff, students will buy textbooks at full price paypal casino jackpot, then return them at the end of the semester.
It seems like Paypal is treating every transaction like a Credit or Debit Card Purchase. On purchases that are paid through Paypal directly there's no reason to apply a 6 month blanket return policy. Paypal is adopting a policy that the Credit Card Companies have instituted so they can profit off the held funds. Plain and simple.
Additionally, warranties may only cover parts and not services. To deal with companies that don't honor their warranties, a 180 money back guarantee is about the best outcome one can hope for.
Further some products may have limited warranties for things such as car parts that is as long as you own the product - you're covered. Some warranties are most often not transferrable.
Alternatively while time consuming and somewhat costly paypal new account, there's always the people's court or the state attorney who will offer assitance with auto related purchases as each state has lemon laws that car dealerships hate.